God seems to have enabled the universe (or the multiverse) to come into existence not as something he would control directly but rather as a complex enough substrate for all forms of evolution to occur. Think of a bolt of lightning. It is perfectly understood. God does not cause lightning to strike, except very indirectly. It is the same with everything in the universe. Contrary to modern myth, however, God does seem to exist. He is an extraordinarily powerful, finite being in a gigantic cosmos. I have no problem with that. God breathed the fire of life into the inflaton, and then let it go...


If one were to posit that God does in fact exist, one would also have to posit, in acknowledgment of the horrors of this world and their appalling constancy, that He is necessarily finite and limited enough that He doesn't have a choice. Or if He is as powerful and infinite as the theologians say, perhaps too many miracles would set off a chain reaction that would generate a worse reality than the one they were designed to ameliorate. I suppose a lot of people in the modern world just take the path of least resistance and simply posit no God at all, though the picture is different than most people realize.


I would rather say God made the universe possible than deliberately created it; nature is based on a principle of implicit intelligence, not explicit design.


Being a god, or existing in a higher dimension in an afterlife, is work. There is no free lunch in the cosmos. As any being in any universe must necessarily be constrained, the higher beings must exist in a hierarchy, and probably have an overwhelming number of tasks. These entities are more like managers with ranks than transcendental masturbators (which of course is the popular spiritual and religious conception -- paradise and all that.) And if these entities must be moral, well, the work is just that much harder.


When I experience that pure, oceanic beauty, I feel no need to include God personally. I find that all I need attribute it to is nature, whether God is involved or not.


The debate seems to be whether the universe came into existence completely by accident, or was designed by some creator. Why not a third option? Could there be a cosmic substrate which is informed by some subtle governing principle of intelligence or order, which evolves freely according to no predetermined stricture -- chaos? Order (which is a form of intelligence) and random chaos (through which it is expressed) are both required for the evolution of a universe like ours.


My feeling is that God created our universe only very indirectly, and that it evolved into an existence in which, at the beginning of the chain, a kind of fire was breathed into the void creating an intelligent substrate for all that was to come. So what you see is not really a product of God, but rather a virtually autonomous, evolving nature built on a dual principle of chaos and order which is connected to Him quite distantly. So, while we can say God exists, we don't constantly have to attribute everything directly to Him.


I see God as more of a programmer than anything. He created the program, or even built the computer, and just let the simulation run. Whatever happens, happens.


I'm pretty sure that God doesn't need or want us to kiss his ass.


Reality is God's computer program. The laws of physics process His information.


It makes perfect sense to me that there is a God. The cosmos has to have a most powerful being, doesn't it? The only argument against this logic is that humanity is all there is in creation. So take your pick.


Whether or not you believe in miracles, it is a bona-fide miracle that man has not yet blown himself up with strategic nuclear weapons. I would not be surprised to find out that there have to date been several interventions from on high.


I imagine that if there are realms beyond this one, they are extremely complex, and I'm sure there would be some sort of hierarchy. With God at the top, presumably, and many lesser gods as you descend. Possibly all of the gods you've heard about exist somehow, somewhere, and they have an innumerable number of duties and tasks. Take Earth. A lot of people work very hard just to keep civilization afloat. If they didn't, everything would collapse. I imagine infinity is probably similar. Nature exists on a principle of necessity and contingency. It doesn't need God in order to function. But -- what if something went wrong that, if corrected, would save an entire galaxy? Wouldn't you want a team of gods to fix it? I personally have to wonder how human civilization survived the Cold War. I imagine there were multiple interventions from on high, given some of the stories I've been told by people who lived it, e.g. a submarine commander who taught physics at my high school. That sort of thing. All in all, I imagine that, if a next life presents itself, all that will be waiting for us is hard work. Not paradise.


Just as a camera crew cannot do much for the suffering person or animal it is filming, so, in a precisely analogous way, is God powerless to do very much for humanity. Such intervention would simply not be effective in the long term. Say you have a polar bear whose sea ice is being sharply reduced by climate change. He is forced to do things that are quite unnatural for him, such as going after a walrus after months of not being able to eat. Historically, polar bears would never hunt walrus, but he has no choice -- he either goes after one or he starves. Predictably, the walrus' hide is too thick for the bear to make purchase, so he must go hungry. On top of that, he has several stab wounds from those infamous tusks, and he will probably die quite soon. This is all being filmed, of course, but if the camera crew wanted to help, it would need a team of zoologists, equipment, medical supplies, and of course a lot of money to pay for all this -- not to mention the fact that it would be an unnatural and inadvisable act. To help the bear would simply be to generate more dead bears in the ecosystem -- one which can no longer adequately support polar bears. Intervening now would do nothing to affect the grim reality. And the situation must be much the same, if not essentially identical, for God.


It occurs to me, vis-a-vis the concept of "original sin," that any being born into this, our universe, is necessarily bound, at some time or other, to sin.


What of a Creator, or creators? Maybe, in generating their simulation, they programmed in a randomness function, so that they were not the direct creators of what was to happen? Maybe a substrate of order, guided by a principle of chaos? So the Creator, while essentially pushing the "go" button, is not actually directly responsible for everything that happens? How do we know this hasn't happened an infinite number of times already? Also, "reality," hologram, simulation -- what's the difference? Maybe the universe is infinitely old, so there have been an infinite number of "realities," maybe we're a simulation of an AI that was built by a simulation of an AI that was built by aliens simulated by other aliens, and on and on. Sounds a bit like infinity.


Until humanity knows enough, it doesn't know anything.


The soul and spirit could be considered as a manifestation of God, but they are not God literally. These are natural phenomena (that can find a place among the supernatural). But in reality, it is a long way up to God.


Peace and love are great, but I'm afraid they don't go very far in a universe like ours.


God doesn't know everything. And I imagine he lets many stories unfold without bothering about researching the outcome.


Clearly, polytheism and monotheism are both correct.


God is astronomically powerful, though not infinitely so. If you think about it (and if it is true), this answers a lot of the questions people raise who are inclined to blame him for all the tragedies they see. It is not like that. The only beings who can clean up man's messes are humans.


I have trouble with blaming God for the misery and destruction all around us. Everyone always blames God. Really, it doesn't seem to me that God is the one in control here. I would say it rather seems more like that task has fallen to Satan. Blame him.





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